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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2011, 08:40:17 PM »
OK, I tried Adash's workflow in Paint Shop Pro X3, And, Now I can produce a Lomo effect with standard images.... Why?   I wanted to learn a bit more about layers...I guess   ???

Here us what I did...

1) Opened a image I wanted to convert
2) Opened a new blank image (I made the size the same as the file I will be working with)
3) I went the "Materials" dialog and right clicked on color 1, and choose the Gradient tab, and then choose a White to Black fade, and choose the Round option, and inverted it so the Black was the corner vignette to a white (clear) center,
4) I then filled the blank file with the gradient fade.
5) I right clicked on one Gradient Fade and copied it.
6) I then clicked in my image I am converting and "Pasted the gradient fade to a New layer".
7) I then could chose as the blend mode "Dark" on the Gradient Fade layer I just added.
8: I also moved the opacity to around 75%
9) At this point I moved to the Image layer
10) I added contrast, saturation and a soft Gaussian Blur (radius on 2)
11) and any other tweaks I may want.
12) I merged down all the layers
13) I saved the new image as a new JPG,

The Result:
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 08:47:08 PM »
Not bad, but the center spot should be larger. The vignette should start just about where the middle of the cloud is. There is an "Offset" option in GIMP, which makes it skip some distance and then start vignetting.
BTW, I see you oversaturated your image. If you want to make it look like a cross process, you should colour in the vignetted area differently, as usual cross process makes colour shifts different, depending on exposure in different areas.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 09:03:02 PM »
I can adjust that with my next try, I did not save it as a PSP file to preserve the layers, So I will have start again, but, now that I know how to do it, it is a 10min workflow...
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2011, 06:40:22 AM »
I think I have it this time.. I had to open up the center more and have less vignette, and I added an additional "radial blur" on the vignette layer to smooth out the featuring.

If you click on the image below, and use the back arrow, you can the change I made from my previous posted image.

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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2011, 07:12:47 AM »
Not bad indeed.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2011, 07:19:57 AM »
Thanks, You are right, not all subject matter works for the LOMO effect...More open framing and paying attention to what is in the center helps.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2011, 07:26:25 AM »
The vignette should gradually reach almost full black, but at the very corner of the frame.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2011, 07:30:55 AM »
I am still trying to figure out how to have less vignette intruding... but, I will. I think I have an idea, I noticed that too...
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2011, 07:45:51 AM »
We are both making a mistake applying linear gradient, while it should actually be an exponential one.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2011, 07:57:10 AM »
We are both making a mistake applying linear gradient, while it should actually be an exponential one.

What is that?

I have a preset vignette that allows some control on the amount of vignette and what kind of blend to use, though limited compared to what is available on a layer.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2011, 08:17:28 AM »
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2011, 10:39:50 AM »
Not to be overly negative, but its a bit hard to fake some of these effects in my opinion.  Blurriness around the edges should still be affected by the distance that different objects are at and is (almost) never a gaussian blur, and is heavily affected by lighting that is outside the range of the image (a bright point light will make a circle/other shape on an out of focus image, a faked blur will average it out because the brightness is clipped).

And in the case of this image, the cloud is clipped to full, so the vignetting that's getting applied looks fake because its getting turned to flat grey instead of regaining detail...


Oh, and also should probably add some soft focus to these images too.  That 'dreamy' plastic lens on Holgas is a major part of the look!  Again, its something that is affected by brightness level outside of the range of the image, but not as critical for most images... I think
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2011, 12:58:54 PM »
Not to have a rant:

Well, I never said I was trying to have an exact copy of the effect... and why should it matter?
I am not THAT nerdy where I must be "Exact" and "Proper" in order to enjoy the creativity of photography.

It is an alternative process for those who like to experiment.  For those who like the "Pure" image out of the camera w/o any editing are missing a lot of the fun in Digital photography, might as well shoot slide film where you have no control in the final image, other than what the camera/lens produces.

Taking the photo is just the 1st step in a process that will lead you to a photograph that expresses your vision in what you want in the final creative output.

But, yes, it has many differences that using a 25mm LOMO lens, can only produce  :D
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2011, 01:45:43 PM »
Obviously there's no right or wrong in any kind of art form. I'm just saying since you're going for the Holga look, there are some things to take into account that can make it very difficult to achieve.  I think it's easy to get an image that somehow looks 'wrong' when editing something because our brains are wired to expect things in ways we understand them to be.  So, even small discrepancies pop out and, unless it's the intent of the artwork, it can be distracting.

That said, its definitely a good exercise in image editing, and I kind of want to take a crack at it now too... if I weren't at work. Hehe.   :)

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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2011, 08:40:38 PM »
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  Blurriness around the edges should still be affected by the distance that different objects are at
Indeed, curvature of field would do that too.
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never a gaussian blur
That's why I'm applying "zoom" blur, in order to mimic the coma/astigmatism they produce around the corners.
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and is heavily affected by lighting that is outside the range of the image (a bright point light will make a circle/other shape on an out of focus image, a faked blur will average it out because the brightness is clipped).
I haven't god a recipe for that yet. The shape of the bright circle will also be affected by coma/astigmatism as stated above, so it will be very difficult to mimic in PP.
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Sure, we are having fun and trying to create something we like.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2011, 08:47:29 PM »
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  Blurriness around the edges should still be affected by the distance that different objects are at

Indeed, curvature of field would do that too.
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never a gaussian blur

That's why I'm applying "zoom" blur, in order to mimic the coma/astigmatism they produce around the corners.
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and is heavily affected by lighting that is outside the range of the image (a bright point light will make a circle/other shape on an out of focus image, a faked blur will average it out because the brightness is clipped).

I haven't god a recipe for that yet. The shape of the bright circle will also be affected by coma/astigmatism as stated above, so it will be very difficult to mimic in PP.
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Obviously there's no right or wrong in any kind of art form.

Sure, we are having fun and trying to create something we like.


RE RED ^^^

I have also found that a "zoom" blur works better for the corner distortion.. Also a slight "Twist" blur is interesting..

Twist Blur With the .45x Wide Converter on the O/14-42ED at 17/18mm (100* FOV) to have slight vignette at the time of capture.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2011, 10:01:12 PM »
That's very LOMO too. Great.
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2011, 07:08:37 AM »
Wheeeee, my attempt. 30 minutes on Photoshop this morning before work.

Original:

Holgaized:

Things done:
  * Chromatic aberration: Split RGB into different layers, distorted blue and red with barrel/pincushion) with a mask so it doesn't affect the center as much. Thinking back, I think it would have made more sense to adjust the size of the red and blue instead, as these distortions don't effect the corners hardly at all, and those areas should be the most affected.
  * Soft focus: Copied image, heavy gaussian blur, and 'screen' on top of the original, adjusted opacity until I liked it
  * Blurred outside: 'Zoom' blur
  * Vignette: Radial gradient on top layer with 'multiply' effect. Played with brightness and contrast until I liked it, which changes size and 'quickness' of the falloff to black.  Ended up removing the blackness out of the upper right corner because I didn't like it... maybe should have removed from upper left too.  From looking at the pictures from my Holga 135BC ('black corners' ie specifically made to vignette the pictures) depending on the situation it doesn't always vignette, and not always all the corners.  I still don't really like it though... probably would be best to do an exponential curve like Adash said... maybe would make sense to play with the curves in Photoshop instead of just brightness/contrast.
  * Brightness/Contrast: Layer on top, made darker since the soft focus screen makes it lighter, and added contrast to make it more punchy.
 
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Re: W/NW Holga/Lomo effect done in editing.
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2011, 09:57:53 PM »
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  * Vignette: Radial gradient on top layer with 'multiply' effect.
That's what I was thinking to try too. It's very good!
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  * Chromatic aberration: Split RGB into different layers, distorted blue and red with barrel/pincushion) with a mask so it doesn't affect the center as much.
Great idea too! I ought to try something similar with what I have in hand.
Well, apart for not being twisted and oversaturated enough, you did a good work!
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