Author Topic: Why wouldn't you buy this instead of the Pentax K-01? (Read 374 times)

barondla · « **on:** February 05, 2012, 06:04:20 AM »

Playing devil's advocate here. Looking at the Ricoh GRX. Have never played with one and realize it is quirky. The downside of the Ricoh is any time you want to upgrade a sensor you also have to rebuy your lenses. Except the Leica module. But if they bring out a Pentax K module we would have access to the latest sensor without rebuying lenses, it is smaller, and we would gain the evf! Wow! Of course we loose the Pentax K-01 designer styling. Lol. The GRX would allow updating sensor tech without throwing away the body. Seems like the future of photogaphy.
thanks
barondla

How about it Cosinaphile? You do love the Ricohs.

lisandra · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2012, 06:08:58 AM »

Cosinaphile is the resident senior expert of all things ricoh, and gathering what he's said the ricoh is solid built and very well laid out. I think more sensor modules are to come soon (like the Leica one) it seems like the future indeed, but to me it seems like the body has to be perfect for me to commit

adash · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2012, 06:25:48 AM »

What about LCD screen and processor? With processor power doubling every year, what will be left constant in such a body? The battery?

gtxtom · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2012, 08:58:51 AM »

It kind of makes it hard to believe that Ricoh (obviously owns Pentax now) would release a K-mount module now that the K-01 is coming ... Sort of competing for the same thing, right?

rparmar · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2012, 09:12:22 AM »

The Ricoh is over-priced compared with the K-01 and there is no K-mount available, so the question is moot. Though ugly, the Ricoh looks like a golden boy in comparison. And it seems to have very good usability.

The question this raises is how Ricoh will align their different products. Certainly there is no room for the K-01, GRX and Q in the same brand. But then again, there's no sign Ricoh will not simply forge ahead with two brands.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2012, 10:52:28 AM »

i think ricoh will allow a good degree of autonomy in the pentax camera division now advertised as "a ricoh company "
the pentax, doing things their own way, attitude going strong since the days of the pentax auto 110 tiny slr are with us still in cameras like the Q and the
mirrorless k-01

lisandra says im the resident ricoh expert

, [ thanks] maybe mnot , but im their biggest fan here to be sure

ricoh is one of those cameras you need to pick up and shoot with to understand that its praise is not just talk, the perfectly realized and laid out controls the tanklike build... the ricoh attitude ....... always nice glass... nice engines ...read the reviews of the prime lens compacts like the grds or the compact zoom
gx 200 ... camera revered by many pro photographers as the perfect photographers second companion....im no pro , but ricoh cameras excite me like very few cameras

the GXR "body" without a module is 349 usa dollars , a bargain that respects the fact that further investment is necessary to actually start shooting

the gxr with a basic small sensor module a 28- 300 3.5 -5.6 is 429 at adorama costs 429 if you have a first name relationship with a salesman and their extension telephone number so that module cost s 79 dollars if bought together ,

the other modules like the ' 28mm" apsc "50mm" macro apsc and the m mount apsc come it at about 550 dollars each which is a fair price,imo
for such superior optics welded to a decent apsc sensor in a neat and solid rectangular metal module.....

its quirky if youve seen it from afar,

its superb if youve held one in the hand... the 12 mp m mount module is beautifully built ... it has a top flight but somewhat quiet mechanical shutter, and an option for a silent electronic sensor, if desired ....wow.... that great ricoh build.... a decent if not spectacular apsc sensor thats pretty nice up to 1600 but really shines at low isos ,its ability to adjust peripheral brightness ... edge color adjustment...[for hard to tame wide lens designs] exif information with 2 type of focus peaking and different types of magnification are all proof that ricoh has thought like a photographer in ther gxr body and module designs

that is what they almost always do in their design , intuitive logically designed and laid out , great customizability and user power... this is why ricoh stands alone in the great praise they recieve in their offbeat but incomparably realized second pocketable pro companions

ricoh is in the process of offering a new m mount module a 16 mp sensor from sony [with nex 5n sensor goodness] a "24-85" 3.5 to 5.5 new 16mp apsc sensor [ hopefully with the slow lens it willl be cheap.]... yes these things exist off the beaten path of camera design, which i regard as a good thing .

dont take my word for it , ignore the chorus of grumble of how bad the ricohs are ...or how odd or maligned
[ i dont include rpalmer here whose comments mostly come from a position of thoughtfulness]
and instead read the reviews from the pros and shooters

cosinaphile · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2012, 11:17:47 AM »

also ricoh will not now bring out a mf k mount module , even if they did it would work very similarly to the m mount one...
the addition of a k to m mount adapter would give all the power of that module to k lens users [ wait for the 16mp one]

the gxrs off to a rocky start are doing well , the gxr m mount module is often backordered

barondla · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:57:38 PM »

Great post Cosinaphile. Makes me want to see a Ricoh up close. I think they will bring out a K adapter one day. We shall see.
thanks
barondla

cosinaphile · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:06:23 PM »

you are one of many who want one

but all thats really needed is a kmount to m mount adapter and the ricoh m mount module.............. and gxr body

adash · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2012, 12:03:44 AM »

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there is no K-mount available

And why would you need this K-mount now, ~30 years after its introduction? The obsession of this mount, which is neither compact enough, nor really offers a wide selection of modern AF glass, nor is really compatible with Contrast Detect AF in the mirrorless cameras, seems more of a nostalgia, rather than a practical approach.

The K-01 is a nice thing (ok, not so nice actually), but it would be better if it didn't have the K-mount, which really cripples both its performance and appearance.

The K-mount was designed around the mirror box, and inherited the M-42 flange-back distance, now when neither are present, the K-mount should go too, lending its place to something more innovative, and more appropriate for the changing market. It is time for Pentax to start living in the future, and not in the past, no matter how glorious it was.

Of course compatibility would be guaranteed via an adapter.

Why wouldn't you buy this instead of the Pentax K-01?