Author Topic: That is the ugliest camera I have ever seen (Read 1949 times)

voyager · « **on:** March 30, 2011, 05:35:47 PM »

The Pentax NC-1

Em5 Pete · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:02:07 PM »

Apparently a Pentax Auto 100 size digital with a 1/2.3 sensor and interchangeable lenses.
Well maybe it will have "In-Lens" f/stops this time around, but a leaf shutter would be very quite.

And bigger APS-C size mirrorless to be introduced that takes PK lenses... Ummmmm, a deep Body, or a PK mount adapter to m/PK mount

??

I am surprised Pentax is going there. They are typically a nitch brand... per say.

RustedChrome · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2011, 12:47:26 AM »

It's perfect for a night out at the disco.

voyager · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:01:13 AM »

Can you imagine what the other two colors look like?

adash · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:04:52 AM »

Not sure about ugly, bu that's the camera with least meaning in itself. 1/2.33 with interchangeable lenses? Why bother, a non-interchangeable super-zoom will perform similarly without the burden of changing lenses...And then again, imagine a 50um dust speck on a sensor with 1um pixel pitch....

cosinaphile · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:15:20 AM »

with a sensor that small they had an oppotournity to produce a zoom with a f1.2 to f 2.8 range with very little glass , at least that would have redeemed it a bit
like tv lenses that pentax already makes for goodness sake

what @$$holes these makers are
i shoulda known they would drop the ball here
considering this:

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adash · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2011, 11:28:20 AM »

Those zooms don't have too little glass, you know. I've seen a TV zoom with a constant F/1.9 and it is not small at all! Also consider this - in a compact camera you always focus after you zoom. Thus the focus distance does not have to be retained along the zoom range. If you make it an external zoom, it will have to retain its plane of focus when zooming, thus many more lens elements will have to be used.
Please also note that the miniature sensor will put a true challenge to the lens resolution and also limit the minimum aperture that can be used to F/8 or even less due to diffraction spot becoming substantially larger than pixel pitch at F numbers bigger than that.

voyager · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2011, 02:37:03 PM »

If the sensor is this small and is going to be exposed, can you imagine how hard it will be to clean it?

cosinaphile · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2011, 10:27:38 PM »

Quote from: adash on April 01, 2011, 11:28:20 AM

Those zooms don't have too little glass, you know. I've seen a TV zoom with a constant F/1.9 and it is not small at all! Also consider this - in a compact camera you always focus after you zoom. Thus the focus distance does not have to be retained along the zoom range. If you make it an external zoom, it will have to retain its plane of focus when zooming, thus many more lens elements will have to be used.
Please also note that the miniature sensor will put a true challenge to the lens resolution and also limit the minimum aperture that can be used to F/8 or even less due to diffraction spot becoming substantially larger than pixel pitch at F numbers bigger than that.

yes to all that but consider how small zooms can be made for all the point and shoot cameras with a similar sized
chip ....not asking for f 1.9 across the zoom range just something like the zooms in cameras like my tl 100 or gx 200... i think they are being chincy with the speed

adash · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2011, 10:47:33 PM »

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consider how small zooms can be made for all the point and shoot cameras with a similar sized
chip ....

Yeah, completely correct. These can not serve as zoom-ring lenses however, as in the moment you move the zoom ring, you need to refocus again. In compact cameras these benefit from the inability to zoom while holding the shutter button half way down - you will anyway have to focus again after you zoom.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2011, 04:05:47 PM »

does anyone know anything about the mount is it a 110 mount?

Em5 Pete · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2011, 04:14:29 PM »

I thought the same thing, there are some nice lenses... the 50/2.8 and 70/2.8 come to mind as primes.

adash · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:48:58 AM »

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does anyone know anything about the mount is it a 110 mount?

No idea about compatibility with Auto110 lenses yet....

Panther · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2011, 04:07:32 PM »

This one is interesting....

Em5 Pete · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »

Those were ugggggglllly for sure

Em5 Pete · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2011, 04:11:43 PM »

how about this one
Great lens and IQ and a swivel lens/body.... but also ugly

The Canon that looks like a Canon

A Zeiss Ugly

A Kodak Ugly

A Konica Ugly

Just to see a few

voyager · « **Reply #16 on:** April 04, 2011, 01:15:14 AM »

While I hate to open old wounds...

adash · « **Reply #17 on:** April 04, 2011, 02:06:46 AM »

The E-300 is actually cute. It is also quite innovative because it replaces the pentaprism with two Porro prisms. Also the mirror travels left to right, instead of up-down.
BTW, we used to have a dedicated thread a while ago.

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