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Offline ghostivv

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Learning to shoot with E-P1
« on: November 17, 2011, 04:12:20 AM »
A shootout from My Thoughts on Using E-P1. I'm new and starting to learn, so take it easy  ;).

First, I'm struggling with contrast/focus/sharpness (???). With AF locked and fine tuning with MF, the pics still appear "soft". Not a great day to snap..hazy n cloudy. Focus on front top corner of block. Anything wrong?
f/11 iso400 1/125 AP mode 
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 04:25:16 AM »
2nd shot at same time. Not sure where the focus....
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 04:57:17 AM »
Right off the bat I would say you are using a too small aperture. Due to lens diffraction, most experts agree you should avoid going past f/8 on 4/3 sensor cameras. For maximum sharpness you should stay as close as possible to the lens' 'sweet spot', which for most lenses is somewhere around f/4-f/5.6. This should also give you a good balance between contrast and dynamic range. What lens are you using?
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 05:29:19 AM »
panny 14mm f/2.5

 

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 05:51:02 AM »
Ok, that lens does indeed have a sweet spot between f/4-5.6. Here's a chart of how it resolves at different apertures. As you can see, f/11 is definitely not within the optimal range.
Being a wide angle lens, you get plenty of DOF even wide open, so there shouldn't be any need to stop it down that much, unless you're going for long exposures, in which case I'd personally much rather use an ND filter anyway.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 06:11:09 PM »
I have the same issue frequently with my E-P1, my photos don't look nearly as sharp as they should. Most of the time it's my own error though, although sometimes I'm not quite sure why it happens (possibly due to slow shutter speeds and a cheap tripod).
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 10:43:38 PM »
Try to shoot in A-Mode and set aperture between 4 and 6.
Focus on something and shoot.
It should be sharp.
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 12:47:43 AM »
Try to shoot in A-Mode and set aperture between 4 and 6.
Focus on something and shoot.
It should be sharp.

..and for outdoors shooting, even on a cloudy day, you can set the ISO to 100-200. Unless your going for a gritty look, always use the lowest ISO you can get away with.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 04:01:15 AM »
ISO200 f/4.0 AP-mode Focus on top end of bench. Looks like washed out colours on grass and not so sharp  ???

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 04:05:48 AM »
ISO100 f/5.0 AP-Mode focus on highlight part of trunk on front tree. Poor colour on grass and again problem with sharpness.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 04:11:47 AM »
They seem alright , no ?
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 05:14:26 AM »
I think these look much better than the first one you posted. If you want more sharpness, go into your settings and add some sharpening.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 05:41:13 AM »
thanks. Should the sharpness be towards -ve or +ve. What ppl's use for "normal"? What about the colour? Both looks dull...no??

Next week I'll try with tripod to see whether faults lies on my style of holding. ATM all are handheld shots (thought at those shutter speeds shouldn't be a big difference).

Just a warning...coming up next week is problem in shadow noise :-X. Stay with me pls  :-*

@asterinex: what a gr8 pics on your flickr sig link. WOW!!
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 05:38:57 PM »
I'm guessing you're shooting in JPG? You need to change your camera settings to give the photos less of a neutral feel.

Shadow noise is the biggest problem with the E-P1, I haven't found a solution for it.
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 12:46:16 AM »
Warning!! go easy on sharpening!!!! Do not sharpen in Camera it should be the last thing done to an Image before saving.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2011, 01:35:26 AM »
Are you shooting jpeg? That particular lens isn't wonderful unless you're looking at the center...
More megapixels don't necessarily mean more resolution...

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 12:14:04 PM »

@asterinex: what a gr8 pics on your flickr sig link. WOW!!
thx, all jpgs from E-p1, a lot of them with the kitlens and most of them without PP. All shot in A-
Mode. That's the only thing I know. :)
You can do the same with your cam.
Please note that these few pictures are the best out of thousands of others. Not every picture is good. Most of them aren't. I speak for myself now :)
The most important and sometimes most difficult job is to destuingish the good from the normal.
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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 02:36:31 PM »
What about the colour? Both looks dull...no??

I think the colors look fairly natural, dead grass in the shade looks dull in person too. The sky and the part of the tree that's hit by sunlight have great colors.

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2011, 07:47:50 PM »

@asterinex: what a gr8 pics on your flickr sig link. WOW!!
thx, all jpgs from E-p1, a lot of them with the kitlens and most of them without PP. All shot in A-
Mode. That's the only thing I know. :)
You can do the same with your cam.
Please note that these few pictures are the best out of thousands of others. Not every picture is good. Most of them aren't. I speak for myself now :)
The most important and sometimes most difficult job is to destuingish the good from the normal.

this is the best possible advice you could recieve imho, it is all about reviewing what you have shot and  developing an eye to glean from your whole production  the best... the most artistically solid , the most aesthetically powerful and real.... cut the wheat form the chaff

and when you have your best , .. process it in a program , remember  that all the great photographs down thru history were the result of a good shot fully relized by printing , in out time we may not print many of out images , but they still need tweaking  almost always
burning and dodging maybe a mild or severe crop a lighten..a darken.... a pop to contrast  dynamic range adjustments more color less color , no color

sometimes very little or nothing needs to be done to an image , sometimes an image you thought was absolute loss can be made into a thing of beauty and maening thru an intelligent manipulation of the image   a distillation of whats important in an image

a distillation ..... thats is a good word to remember , let me file that in my own mind.

your work is getting better , keep shooting and look and emulate the great image of the past to help you develop your eye, as you work you will naturally move in a certain direction dur to your influences and also what is uniquely inside you , internalize what makes a good image

 look learn emulate create ....your own vision will emerge the better for it

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Re: Learning to shoot with E-P1
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2011, 11:49:20 AM »
thanks for great advices and definitely I'll remember wise words from here.

 

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