Author Topic: 'My Take On The New PEN Digitals' (Read 2169 times)

Panther · « **on:** July 04, 2011, 10:55:29 AM »

Quick & dirty bolean logic based upon my experiences as an XZ-1 owner....

If the new digital PENS have incorporated the XZ-1 noise reduction routines (or something similar)...

Then shooting in RAW will be a necessity at ISO 400 (800 depending upon preference) or higher due to the NR smearing that occurs....(This is why I shoot in RAW with my XZ-1)

Again solely my opinion based upon my @rse....

count_zero · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »

I've given up on shooting JPEG, can't live without ACR controls.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2011, 03:01:18 PM »

from the looks of the samples for the ep3 id say noise reduction off!!! ....i really love the convience of shooting jpegs

hope it can be user defeated

Panther · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2011, 04:21:17 PM »

Quote from: cosinaphile on July 04, 2011, 03:01:18 PM

hope it can be user defeated

In the XZ-1, it can be defeated if you shoot in RAW

However, those who shoot in JPG only will be disappointed at ISO 400/800 & above, too much automatic NR smearing....

cosinaphile · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2011, 08:36:15 PM »

DO YOU THINK I COULD SHOOT at iso2000 or so with the ep3 with noise reduction off, or at a low setting?

must i shoot raw then??

Panther · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2011, 09:09:40 PM »

Tough to say....I don't take my E-PL2 past 1600 even with NR off & in RAW....

Agent00soul · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2011, 11:28:23 PM »

Quote from: Panther on July 04, 2011, 10:55:29 AM

If the new digital PENS have incorporated the XZ-1 noise reduction routines (or something similar)...

Then shooting in RAW will be a necessity at ISO 400 (800 depending upon preference) or higher due to the NR smearing that occurs....(This is why I shoot in RAW with my XZ-1)

There is no need to shoot in raw because of that. You just set the noise filter to LOW or even OFF if the default NR isn't to your liking.
On my E-P1 I have the noise filter permanently set to LOW, which I think is a good compromise between noise removal and detail retention.

Panther · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2011, 03:45:40 AM »

I want the full capability/information from my sensor, that's why I shoot in RAW..

adash · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2011, 03:50:22 AM »

Quote

On my E-P1 I have the noise filter permanently set to LOW, which I think is a good compromise between noise removal and detail retention.

And I have it to OFF, I can't live without fine detail.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2011, 06:08:49 AM »

Quote from: Panther on July 04, 2011, 09:09:40 PM

Tough to say....I don't take my E-PL2 past 1600 even with NR off & in RAW....

me too i pretty much never go past 800 \1600 color on the ep1 ,im hoping the ep3 can exceed it in quality even at a 1\3 stop higher iso

voyager · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2011, 09:09:35 PM »

You guys are way ahead of me. I can't even find it on my E-P1.

traveler_101 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2011, 06:34:29 AM »

Quote from: voyager on July 08, 2011, 09:09:35 PM

You guys are way ahead of me. I can't even find it on my E-P1.

It's located on the utility menu (identified by the the two star-like gears)
Select "G" (Color/WB)
There are two settings
Noise Reduction: I have mine off
Noise Filter: I have mine on Low

Are those the right settings guys?

Agent00soul · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2011, 09:12:12 AM »

Quote from: traveler_101 on July 09, 2011, 06:34:29 AM

Quote from: voyager on July 08, 2011, 09:09:35 PM
You guys are way ahead of me. I can't even find it on my E-P1.

It's located on the utility menu (identified by the the two star-like gears)
Select "G" (Color/WB)
There are two settings
Noise Reduction: I have mine off
Noise Filter: I have mine on Low

Are those the right settings guys?

Yes, but you can safely set Noise Reduction to ON. It only affects long exposures (over a second or thereabouts).

voyager · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2011, 11:46:46 AM »

Is that just for JPEG or RAW too (dark frame subtraction I'm assuming)?

Agent00soul · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2011, 11:20:12 PM »

Quote from: voyager on July 10, 2011, 11:46:46 AM

Is that just for JPEG or RAW too (dark frame subtraction I'm assuming)?

I think it's for both, but I never shoot raw, so I haven't tested. It definitely takes a dark frame though.

'My Take On The New PEN Digitals'