Author Topic: 'Just Thinking...' (Read 1763 times)

Panther · « **on:** February 06, 2011, 11:59:28 AM »

Since I'm highly fortunate to have just been able to purchase the E-PL2, I've come to realize just how unfortunate it is that Olympus didn't include compatibility for E-P1/P2 & E-PL1 owners for the upcoming Olympus conversion lenses for their new 14-42 (currently only with the E-PL2 & the Japan only E-PLs)...

I'm sure at minimum, the wide-angle conversion lens could sell even more if the compatibility was extended....

On a more positive note, the upcoming macro conversion lens will be compatible for M. Zuiko 14-150ED lens owners so they at least don't have to get a new body obtain one of the upcoming conversion lenses....

adash · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:12:34 PM »

What are you talking about?

Panther · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2011, 02:22:51 PM »

Quote from: adash on February 06, 2011, 02:12:34 PM

What are you talking about?

These lenses which are only available for the 14-42 "new" lens that only comes with the E-PL1s and E-PL2 (with the exception of the macro)

(Scroll down a bit)--> http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1552&page=accessories

M. Zuiko Conversion Lenses
Fish Eye Converter (FCON-P01)
If you’re the creative type of photographer, someone looking for a new perspective and a new channel for your innovative impulses, this converter can give you more ways to express your creativity. Using your existing kit lens, you can extend the range of your PEN to add an entirely new dimension to your pictures. Fits your M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 II lens only. Not compatible with previous versions of this lens.

•Give your kit lens a fisheye effect
•Impress yourself and others with surprising new perspectives
•Great for artistic photography
Lens Construction:
3 lenses/3 groups

Lens Combinations:
Master lens:
M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f:3.5-5.6 II (Focal length set to maximum wide position recommended)

Focal length:
10.4mm (Micro Four Thirds)/20.8 mm (35mm format)

Angle of view:
120 degrees

Focusing Range:
Closest focusing distance: 0.19m

Magnification:
0.11 x (Micro Four Thirds)/0.22 x (35mm format)

Weight:
112g

Item #261552

Price: $169.99

Not in Stock - Find a Retailer

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Macro Converter (MCON-P01)
If you like to take pictures of flowers, insects or stamps - or anything small - then this converter is right for you. Using your existing lens or lenses, you can extend the range of your PEN to take stunning macro-style pictures with impressive detail and interesting perspectives. Use the macro converter with the Macro Arm Light (MAL-1) for perfectly controlled lighting of your macro shots. Fits your M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 II, M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-150mm f4.0-5.6 and the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm f4.0-5.6.

Lens Construction:
1 lenses/1 groups

Weight:
23g

Lens Combinations

•Master lens M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f:3.5-5.6 II* (Focal length set to maximum tele position recommended). Not compatible with previous versions of this lens.
Focusing Range:
0.24 m - 0.51 m

Magnification:
0.28 x (Micro Four Thirds)/0.56 x (35mm format) *Enclosed macro adapter MA-P01 is required for attaching the MCON-P01.

•Master lens M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-150mm f:4.0-5.6 (Focal length set to maximum tele position recommended)
Focusing Range:
0.35m - 0.57m

Magnification:
0.4 x (Micro Four Thirds)/0.8 x (35mm format)

•Master lens M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm f:4.0-5.6 (Focal length set to maximum tele position recommended)
Focusing Range:
0.42m - 0.57m

Magnification:
0.47 x (Micro Four Thirds)/0.94 x (35mm format)

Item #261550

Price: $59.99

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Wide Converter (WCON-P01)
If you like taking great pictures while out on the town - or during a scenic drive in the countryside - the wide converter will give you a whole new perspective. Using your existing kit lens, you can extend the range of your PEN to take amazing wide-angle pictures with stunning depth of field and interesting perspectives. Fits your M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 II kit lens. Not compatible with previous versions of this lens.

•Fit even more onto a single image
•Gives a wide-angle perspective to your kit lens
•Takes fascinating photos of night-time scenes and landscapes
Lens Construction:
2 lenses/2 groups

Lens Combinations
Master lens M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm f:3.5-5.6 II (Focal length set to maximum wide position recommended)

Focal length:
11mm (Micro Four Thirds)/20.8 mm (35mm format)

Angle of view:
89 degrees

Focusing Range:
Closest focusing distance: 0.2m

Magnification:
0.1 x (Micro Four Thirds)/0.2 x (35mm format)

Weight:
85g

Item #261551

Price: $99.99

adash · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:25:53 PM »

I guess they are not compatible due to the rotating front element of the first version. It is just too weak to carry a multi-element attachment, although it handles well single-element close-ups etc.
By the way, I am not gonna cry for either of the above - Oly used to make front attachments with multiple elements and they were of great quality. Now they have
FCON-P01 3 lenses/3 groups
MCON-P01 1 lenses/1 groups
WCON-P01 2 lenses/2 groups
Such attachments for Oly compacts used to have up to six elements:

http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/support/imsg/digicamera/compati/di000390e.cfm#spec

So unless these are made of SLD or LD glass, image quality is not going to be equivalent.

voyager · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2011, 10:27:12 PM »

The first lens doesn't have a bayonet design.

Panther · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2011, 05:09:16 AM »

Quote from: adash on February 06, 2011, 10:25:53 PM

So unless these are made of SLD or LD glass, image quality is not going to be equivalent.

You'll get no debate from me on this...however...
It's of my opinion that Olympus has offered these conversion lenses to keep in step with the red hot selling NEX series that already offers conversion lenses of similar type....

adash · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2011, 05:25:49 AM »

Indeed. These seem like products made in a rush, not true photography tools.

lisandra · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2011, 09:36:23 PM »

somebody kindly explain to me why a rotating front element would make these things not work.

Panther · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:03:29 PM »

lisandra · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:10:22 PM »

So a third party threaded wide angle/fisheye converter should work fine then

adash · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2011, 10:41:45 PM »

Quote from: lisandra on February 07, 2011, 09:36:23 PM

somebody kindly explain to me why a rotating front element would make these things not work.

The added weight acts like a flywheel and due to the additional inertia does not allow the front element to change directions as fast as the motor controls it. This may result in "Check status of a lens" messages or premature wear of the AF gear inside. My home made LED ring light acts in a similar way, although made of lightweight aluminum.

Panther · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2011, 03:25:54 PM »

Quote from: lisandra on February 07, 2011, 09:36:23 PM

somebody kindly explain to me why a rotating front element would make these things not work.

Having just received my E-PL2 today, I can assure you that on the new 14-42 lens, the front element does not rotate....

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