Author Topic: Name is E-M5 and sensor = GX1 sensor (Read 2963 times)

asterinex · « **on:** February 01, 2012, 01:48:07 AM »

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-camera-name-is-e-m5-full-specs/

I'm a little dissapointed in the sensor. I really hoped for seomething new.

Any gx1 shooters who can comment on the sensor ?

adash · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:07:28 AM »

Not too happy either. Let's see the actual spec. and the camera itself and decide then.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:35:14 AM »

ME TOO ME TOO $:-\$

i know with tweaking a sensor can do crazy stuff consider the x 100 which has a very plain vanilla 12 mp sensor with class leading iq

it uses fuji pixie dust you see

im hoping oly engineers can do the same with pannys sensor

javarob75 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:58:56 AM »

I'm actually not as disappointed as I thought I would be. I have been on the fence regarding the purchase of a new camera since the release of the e-p3. My e-p1 is still taking great pictures, and I'm finally starting to overcome some of the short comings of the camera (slow AF, blown highlights). This rumor may make it easier for me to pass on the new camera purchase and instead focus on upgrading my lens collection to include the Oly 45mm, Panny 20mm, and Panny 14mm. I would also like to add to my toy lens collection (love my holga lens, would like to add a diana lens and a 25mm 1.4 cctv lens).

Of course, I may throw all that out the window and pick up the new OM-D...

lisandra · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2012, 04:51:12 AM »

The gx1 is in no way a disappointment

http://admiringlight.com/blog/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gx1-review/

adash · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:18:34 AM »

Quote from: lisandra on February 01, 2012, 04:51:12 AM

The gx1 is in no way a disappointment

http://admiringlight.com/blog/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gx1-review/

I didn't know it was so good. May be too much noise reduction?

lisandra · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:35:48 AM »

Jman doesn't go heavy on the noise reduction on that review, he only used it at the end to try and match the output of the 1d. If Olympus does manage to use an even lighter filter on that sensor the em 5 might be the most resolved m4/3s camera made.

Andre Delhaye · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:38:26 AM »

Quote from: lisandra on February 01, 2012, 04:51:12 AM

The gx1 is in no way a disappointment

http://admiringlight.com/blog/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gx1-review/

Couldn't agree more....

lisandra · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:29:04 AM »

Also from Jman's blog, a comparison vs full frame

http://admiringlight.com/blog/micro-43-vs-a-full-frame-legend/

tamoio · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:10:16 AM »

I completely expected this, and its not a bad thing.

If Olympus can manage to get its 43 glass to work decently on this body and it does video as well as a GH2 I would be really enthusiastic about it.

adash · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:36:23 AM »

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it does video as well as a GH2 I would be really enthusiastic about it.

What's wrong with AF100?

Pete · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:45:37 AM »

So, maybe my screen name will make sense again

tadeobiologo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:46:55 AM »

But! where is the photographic spirit!?

??
does Cartier-Bresson used AF, 50K ISO, IBIS or Mega OIS???
people tend to be brand-tied and buys things that doesn´t really need (even if marketing is what feeds companies more than their products quality)

what i hope for the next camera is better DR (so my images look best at any print size) and better resolution (so good lenses can be used decently), and no 1000,000,000 clean ISO, just 1600 clean ISO so i can use it handheld or with non-atomic-bomb-flash-burns.

tamoio · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:41:00 PM »

Quote from: adash on February 01, 2012, 11:36:23 AM

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it does video as well as a GH2 I would be really enthusiastic about it.
What's wrong with AF100?

Nothing wrong with mine. I use the GH2 as a "B" camera but there are some things about it that could definitely be improved, weather sealing and an external battery pack would be nice, and probably most annoying is the single 1/4" tripod mount on the GH2 that makes it really difficult to mount securely. Olympus lenses don't work very well on the AF100 either and I would be very happy if I could use a 35-100 F2 Olympus.

voyager · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:15:56 PM »

Why are people hating on the GX1 sensor? It's new isn't it?

lisandra · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:05:05 PM »

Even if it wasn't, its a very good sensor. And given the track record Olympus has out of squeezing the crap out of Panasonic sensors this should be good. The sensor is a third of the equation, the circuitry around it plays a big role in speed, processing and heat management. There's also the all important processor which can make a run of the mill sensor great. Then there's the aa filter..a simple redesign of the aa filter can change image quality drastically.
Case in point: the same sensor is used in the Sony a55, the nikon d7000 and the pentax k5 but the iq is vastly different in all three. The pentax resolves 100+ more lines than the a55 and the d7000 has cleaner files. The k5 manages ISO 50k while the a55 has a 12k limit.

voyager · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:07:12 PM »

The best example is the Kodak 6 megapixel sensor that was used by nearly every brand for years, but the Nikon D40 had the best image quality from it.

tadeobiologo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:49:37 PM »

Quote from: voyager on February 01, 2012, 03:07:12 PM

The best example is the Kodak 6 megapixel sensor that was used by nearly every brand for years, but the Nikon D40 had the best image quality from it.

Oh yeah! i have used the D40 and the auto exposures are simply gorgeous!

RT_Panther · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:00:37 PM »

Quote from: voyager on February 01, 2012, 03:07:12 PM

The best example is the Kodak 6 megapixel sensor that was used by nearly every brand for years,

Interesting.
When one talks about overall image IQ, quite a few of the Olympus Kodak sensored Four Thirds also come into the picture too.

One thing about that famous Kodak sensor - it's a CCD sensor (just like Leica M9) - There is a debate that CCD sensored images have much better overall image IQ than CMOS sensored images.

Me personally, I prefer the CCD & Foveon sensor images for best overall image IQ in the 50-400 ISO range.

voyager · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:14:57 PM »

CCD definitely gives better results because of the design.

Jman · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2012, 07:55:11 AM »

The GX1 sensor is very good. I have found it better than the GH2 overall, despite what DxO says. It is definitely better at high ISO, and is indistinguishable at low ISO. I wish it were multi-aspect, but frankly I haven't missed that too much on the GX1. 16 MP is high enough resolution that even a cropped image in 16:9 still has a high-res file, though I wish I had some of the extra width there, but still...I've found myself using the GX1 a lot more than the GH2 recently. Part of that is because it's new, but the rest is that it does a lot of things right. One thing I'm so glad to have is an orientation sensor so I don't need to rotate my verticals anymore.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2012, 09:49:49 AM »

from what ive read of the x 100s sensor it really a plain vanilla 12 mp one and not even the newest , yet they, fuji have performed a miracle on it ,,,almost absent chroma noise ... astounding micro detail and just great"drawing" imho and , and they didnt employ the AA filter, one of the first and most important
things a maker can do when "refitting ' a sensor fro their own specialized needs

ive always been impressed with olympus more than panny in this regard , their files seem snappier with a nicer tonal "curve" panny sometimes seems flat
to me and needs a little more work in post sometimes..... considering the differences between apsc sqmm and m 4\3 sqmm, panny has done pretty well with their newest sensor ...if olympus can lose the detail smearing AA filter and control chroma noise in the way fuji has done [ and luma noise too for that matter
....then they may have a real winner......im way over due for a m4\3 body refresh , like javarob , i was struggling between the gx1 and ep3 ,"on the fence"

both looked very good to me the fly in the ointment was the ep3 had the same sensor as the ep1 and 2and frankly they squeezed a little too hard with nr art high iso and the gx1 had a beautiful form and new sensor but fidnt but a clue when it came to internal finder

thus the new om is looking good to me , no aa filter would seal it for me

Spinyman · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2012, 10:55:18 AM »

What are the practical differences in imaging between the GX1 and G3? Same sensor, right?

Jman · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2012, 11:31:16 AM »

Same sensor, a little different processing and maturation. The GX1 has a little better noise performance at high ISO. That's about it.

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