Author Topic: Ultra-wide pancake (Read 1698 times)

kachemak · « **on:** October 20, 2009, 08:07:29 AM »

Does anyone know if Olympus or Panasonic plans to make an ultra-wide pancake at, say, 10mm or 12mm? Thanks.

DjordjeJ · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:13:26 AM »

Only that is sure for now, is that Panasonic plan to release 14 f2.8 next spring, together with 8mm fisheye and, I thin, 100-400mm or similar.

Federico Alberto · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2009, 12:29:09 PM »

The third Lumix G Vario will be a 100-300mm f/4-5.6

elbonedeedo · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:02:33 PM »

There's the 7-14mm Lumix G Vario (14-28mm equiv) that'll work on the EP-1

kachemak · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2009, 08:03:32 AM »

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I see there's the Panny 7-14mm and that it's getting fantastic reviews. I sold all my DSLR gear because I have no spare time in my life right now. What has me attracted to buying either the EP-1 or the GF1, though, is their small size and the pocketability when matched with a pancake. I'll be able to carry wherever I go and have available in those few free moments that come along. I guess I'll buy one of these cameras now with either the 17mm or 20mm and hope someone produces a 10mm pancake in the future. Thanks!

cosinaphile · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2009, 09:29:52 AM »

voightlander makes an excellent 12 5.6 full frame it reallly pretty small though not a pancake , im not sure pancake designs are ever made with a 20 mm equiv [on 35] which a 10 would be unless you consider the design of the zeiss biogons like the 15

keep a relitively small lens on the camera and keep some lenses in a bag that are too big to sit permanantly on the ep-1 or get a ricoh gx200 as a backup ,its 24 to 72 equiv great iq at low isos and keep that in your pocket instead

elbonedeedo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2009, 10:12:37 AM »

Quote from: kachemak on October 21, 2009, 08:03:32 AM

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I see there's the Panny 7-14mm and that it's getting fantastic reviews. I sold all my DSLR gear because I have no spare time in my life right now. What has me attracted to buying either the EP-1 or the GF1, though, is their small size and the pocketability when matched with a pancake. I'll be able to carry wherever I go and have available in those few free moments that come along. I guess I'll buy one of these cameras now with either the 17mm or 20mm and hope someone produces a 10mm pancake in the future. Thanks!

Between the 17mm Oly and the 20mm Pany, I'd say go for the 20mm Pany. The 20mm is two stops faster and produces some fantastic images. Given the no onbody flash for the EP-1, the faster lens is handier. I've got both, both are good lenses, but the 20mm definitely gets more play.

Federico Alberto · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2009, 01:58:45 PM »

Quote from: elbonedeedo on October 21, 2009, 10:12:37 AM

Between the 17mm Oly and the 20mm Pany, I'd say go for the 20mm Pany. The 20mm is two stops faster and produces some fantastic images. Given the no onbody flash for the EP-1, the faster lens is handier. I've got both, both are good lenses, but the 20mm definitely gets more play.

Just got my Panny 20mm today in the mail, from amazon.com

Couldn't agree more... In natural office light, at f/1.7 in A mode and ISO 200 the resulting shutter speed is 1/250 seconds.

As for AF performance, it is noticeably faster than the M:Zuiko 17mm.

Fantastic!

DjordjeJ · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:37:54 PM »

It would be great if Panasonic cahnge their mind, and instead of 14 f2.8 lens produce 12 f2.8. I am sure it would be very popular lens.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:26:56 AM »

yes or even 11 or 10 there is no reason they cant just probably not in the pancake form factor

peterb666 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:50:55 PM »

Quote from: DjordjeJ on October 22, 2009, 11:37:54 PM

It would be great if Panasonic cahnge their mind, and instead of 14 f2.8 lens produce 12 f2.8. I am sure it would be very popular lens.

I agree with you there.

It would be nice if Olympus and Panasonic got together and developed a complementary strategy for lens development rather than one that too often duplicates each other's effort. I think this is important when there are so few options in MFT. We don't have info yet on the proposed wide angle and longer zooms from Olympus but these may not be filling gaps.

Ian Tindale · « **Reply #11 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:16:41 PM »

If Sigma or Tamron were to make m4/3 lenses - prime and zoom - I wonder how popular they'd be.

cosinaphile · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:39:05 PM »

very popular tokina too

DjordjeJ · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2009, 07:41:26 AM »

Quote from: peterb666 on October 23, 2009, 02:50:55 PM

Quote from: DjordjeJ on October 22, 2009, 11:37:54 PM
It would be great if Panasonic cahnge their mind, and instead of 14 f2.8 lens produce 12 f2.8. I am sure it would be very popular lens.

I agree with you there.

It would be nice if Olympus and Panasonic got together and developed a complementary strategy for lens development rather than one that too often duplicates each other's effort. I think this is important when there are so few options in MFT. We don't have info yet on the proposed wide angle and longer zooms from Olympus but these may not be filling gaps.

That would be great, but Olympus and Panasonic are two independent companies, so I dont think their goal is to make our wishes come true.

Ultra-wide pancake