id rather see us all on the same side , flaming something worthy of our ire , here goes

the utter disregard of the federal govt for the health welfare and protection of the environment of the people of the united states , and people in other nations who are unfortunate enough to live in places on earth where resources  coveted by american corporations  lead to protracted wars
slaughtering countless millions of citizens for many decades

the gulf blowout event... these disgusting dispersant  do not clean the oil
but spread it thru the land air and water to make it less visible where it toxifies  the environment , this in no way is a slam on the engineers
who work hard in their profession in dangerous conditions , it  is corporate policy to engage in reckless practices , the magnitude of the gulf blowout disaster , is a subset of the assault
on the entire earths ecosystem , psychotic greed driven madmen run the show.

it spews the equiv of the exxon valdez event every 2 1\2 to 5 days and in addition to the crude oil gushing from the rupture a mile below the sea a volume of methane and other toxic  gasses hundreds of tims larger poisons the gulf , the avg life expectancy of an exxon valdez cleanup worker was 51 years old , this is some  nasty stuff


when the govt and corporations become one , there is no other word  to describe it but fascism , obama, bush clinton / they`re are exactly the same... we are ruled in secret and given a puppet show for the masses
whew! 

i love posting on a forum that allows opinions like this to air

, in these times people need to be free to discuss and share their anger at what is unfolding ......perhaps people will be inspired to vote more wisely, or petition the federal govt  thru or reps  for its collusion with food drug and energy cartels , 
, sadly some  places on the internet consider  this verboten speech , when you are no longer to allowed to mention what is wrong and what you object to , then the guy with his boot on your neck has already won , why anyone would want to assist what is evil in the world today  bt supressing any mention of dissent or contrary opinion on the assault on freedom the environment  or crimes committed by the powerful or well placed is beyond me

orwell warned of this , our world is becoming a fufilled prophesy of nightmane opression and the death of all freedom and free thought
there is only one right side to this equation for the citizen, but
their are two right sides to this for those who rule us   

 thats a good vibration , this forum has a degree of mental health and intellectual maturity that sadly many places are terrified  to embrasce because of kneejerk reactionary posters who cant stand dissent from their vision of a my way or a highway world ,

why cant people understand the danger of govts haviing absolute power over the citizen/

do people not remember the history of the 20 c with the insanity of dictators

hitler stalin   polpot  the corporate ditctatorships emerging in the west have no less contempt for freedom or the citizen
  these are  strange  times

That’s not going to start a flame war, just a whole lot of agreement.

Yeah what the hell. I see no flaming here. Let's see...

ABORTION IS MURDERRERERERERRRRR!!!!1111

How's that?

Bollocks

And what does "bollocks" mean?

panther, neutrality can be golden, look what its done for switzerland

but if your interested the facts are out there , the neocons are proud of their crimes and do nothing to hide them for the eyes of the curious ,


cheers

I know the facts are out there, but one thing that I've learned from moderating other forums is to stay out of politics & relgion

I find that limiting what people can talk about is counterproductive (there's a recent example of this in a neighboring forum, actually) from all of my years of running these things. If anything, I'll make a separate section for Politics and Religion if they become prominent enough, but I will never ban them.

Good luck then! 
In my previous forum experiences, I've seen quite a few online friendships get shattered because of unmoderated political & religious posts...

If a friendship can't last because of differences in political or religious views, what kind of friendship was it really? Same with marriages. If a gay marriage will destroy your straight marriage, how strong was it to begin with?

Adash mentioned the "Minaret Verbot" in Switzerland. Actually that is an example of where the people have the ultimate power. That law was enacted by the Swiss citizens via "Volks Initiative" against the will of the government and most politicial parties. The Swiss people have the right to a constitutional initiative. If the majority vote accepts such a "peoples initiative" it becomes part of the constitution and no judge can ever overrule it. The people, right or wrong, truly have the last word.They will have to give up this right if they ever become part of the (relatively totalitarian) EU.

I agree that if it's well moderated, rules are strictly stated & adhered to, it can work.....